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I was messing with Distrowatch today before class and decided to see how everyone was doing at different time frames. Then something hit me, within the last 7 days there has been a very close call be Ubuntu (#1) and PCLinuxOS (#2). What I thought was Kool was the fact that there is a KDE distribution up there kicking stones with Ubuntu.

KDE at number 2 on distrowatch for the past 7 days

I think the reason for PCLinuxOS’s popularity lies within all of the non-free multimedia codes install by default. It may look like Windows 95 out of the box, but people are downloading it and using it like mad. I have noticed a few people using it at our LUG events. They all said the same thing, they didn’t have to worry about !Restricted Formats, it had Beryl out of the box, and of course it is a combination of KDE and Debian ๐Ÿ™‚ I may not agree with the entire PCLinuxOS gig, but I have to give it to them for drawing in many new KDE users. Now maybe these new KDE users will decide that they want to live FREE, enjoy the color purple, and love being chased around by someone from the down-undah with a long pointy stick ๐Ÿ™‚

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  • Can you clarify the statement about PCLInuxOS? It’s a fork of Mandrake (from 9.2), and its history page still says as much. Has that changed?

  • ardchoille

    How are you certain “people are downloading it and using it like mad”? The page hit ranking graphic above simply shows the counts of people ‘looking at those two pages at Distrowatch’ – which would be easy to manipulate by either community. I think a better source for a user count would be the number of unique IP’s downloading updates for each distro (maybe there is a better way?). Do you have that information available?

  • Weeber


    Mark Shuttleworth said that there’s about 8 million ubuntu users based on the uniques IPs downloading upgrades or something alike.

  • I don’t have the information available no. What I do have are my 2 eyes that have seen an increased display of users with PCLinuxOS. I was just informed there is a user count on PCLinuxOS website or forums, so if you are interested please go there and research. All I know about PCLinuxOS is it has APT, Synaptics, and dpkg ๐Ÿ™‚ If that doesn’t scream Debian then I don’t know what does. If it is a fork of Mandrake, isn’t Mandrake a fork of Debian? I never followed Mandrake so I don’t know. You are correct, those pages could be manipulated as well, but from what I have seen with my very own eyes here in the Chicago land area are a lot of “NEW” users with PCLinuxOS.

  • ardchoille

    I could be wrong, but I think Mandrake is a fork of either Red Hat or Fedora. I used Mandrake for a while and I know it is (or was at one time) .rpm based, whereas debian is .deb based. The last time I used PCLinuxOS 93a, it was .rpm based and a fork of Mandrake. This information could be way out of date seeing as a lot of distros are switching to a debian or ubuntu base – as MEPIS has done.

    I believe Weeber is correct, there are millions of people who use Ubuntu.. and that count will increase if DELL continues with their plans to sell Ubuntu machines.

    There was an article on Distrowatch recently which stated that their distro count is simply a count of unique page hits and has nothing to do with the number of users actually using those distros.

    From what I remember of PCLinuxOS, it includes all manner of codecs and plugins, making it very attractive to new users. They even make it very easy to create a livecd from the installed PCLinuxOS system – which can then be used as a LiveCD/InstallCD.

  • Mandrake is in fact a derivative of Redhat. I believe their first version was somewhere around 7.something which was (I *think*) a spin off of Redhat 6 or so. I remember that when it started, Mandrake was “Redhat with the bugs fixed,” and they did a good job of that. PCLinuxOS is a spinoff of Mandrake (as I said before).

    They are still RPM based (See and may very well use apt, dpkg, synaptic, etc, but there *is* apt for RPM. Not sure how they would use dpkg, though. Maybe there is dpkg for RPM?

  • PCLinuxOS uses a program called the Synaptic Software Manager (and behind the scenes: apt-get) to search the available software catalog, download selected programs, install them and even update all your installed software. It really is a one-stop shop.

    Now the funny thing is on the synaptic (install software) wiki page, all the way at the bottom they use RPM commands ๐Ÿ™‚ So I guess you can do APT for RPM, learned something new. That explains the version|tex numbers

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