Blog Post

Kubuntu 8.04 FAQ

We are seeing more and more questions relating to Kubuntu 8.04, the Hardy Heron, and KDE 4, and some KDE 3 as well. So to hopefully save you some keystrokes on IRC, forums, or mailing lists, lets try this out first.

  • Will there be a KDE 4 Live CD for 8.04?
    • YES
  • If So, when will it be available for download?
    • Take the date of this blog post and look at about a week hopefully. Some infrastructure changes are needed first, which are currently being addressed.
  • Once again, if so, then where will it be available?
    • A good place to keep an eye out will be Kubuntu.org for an announcement. They should be released somewhere under THIS directory.
  • Hey, KDE just included the ability to resize the Plasma Panel, is that included in your latest 4.0.1 updates?
    • A straight answer would be maybe, however we really want to follow the release schedule set forth by the KDE community, so if one of our developers don’t create a patch and include it right now, all you have to do is wait a month until 4.0.2 is released.
  • If KMail or Kontact for KDE 4 isn’t ready, what am I supposed to use for Email?
    • We are using KMail and Kontact from the KDE 3 PIM series. It works quite well, pretty much the same as it does in KDE 3. I am using it, with POP3 of course, and haven’t had any issues with it at all.
  • Since you are working so hard on KDE 4, what about KDE 3?
    • We haven’t forgotten about KDE 3 at all. We are still working hard at fixing bugs, improving some functionality that was promised at UDS, and still supporting it. How long? Well that will only be defined with time of course.
  • Can I upgrade from KDE 3 in a previous release, say Feisty (7.10) to KDE 4 in Hardy (8.04)?
    • We haven’t included a way just yet in doing this. We are working with KDE as well as other distributions to hopefully have something available by the release after Hardy (8.04). Right now, an upgrade path from KDE 3 to KDE 4 isn’t all that important as we are not looking at replacing KDE 3 with KDE 4 just yet, we are allowing them to run side-by-side on your computer.
  • Hey, I am not a huge fan of the new default wallpaper for KDE 3 in Hardy, is that going to stay?
    • We have heard this from a few people on IRC. If you know of a wallpaper that is better, cleaner, easier on the eyes, more professional, and FREE in all senses, then send us an email to with a link to your suggestion, and any background information such as licensing, the artist or whatever else you think is important.
  • Hey, I am a budding developer, can I help?
    • Sure you can help. It would be nice if you could stop by the Kubuntu development channel (#kubuntu-devel) on Freenode’s IRC servers and say “HI” as well as what you are interested in helping with, maybe explain your qualifications. If you are new to development and aren’t highly experienced, don’t worry, we don’t typically bite and can work with you. We have plenty of bugs for you to work on ๐Ÿ™‚
  • Hey, I am not really a developer, can I help?
    • Sure you can help. The Kubuntu support channel (#kubuntu) on Freenode’s IRC servers is a great place to start helping. Join the channel and provide any support that you can. Maybe you are good at doing artwork, our art team (1 person is all we have I think right now) can always use the help. How about some documentation writing, that is available as well. I will start working on a plan of attack along with Jonathan Jesse as we are reaching the GUI freeze that will allow us to start documenting. We should have some KDE 4 documentation available for you to write as well.

Sorry, had to throw in some “come help us” stuff in the end there ๐Ÿ™‚

Also, another thing that needs to get done, not so much for Kubuntu, but for KDE is documentation as well. I know myself and Phil have been quite busy of late, but it would be great if we (all developers and documentation writers) could all get together in a quiet location on IRC and maybe hash out some plans. If you are working on an application in the KDE trunk and it needs some documentation, whether it is just updating old documentation, or writing from scratch, just ping me on IRC (nixternal of course) and I will start working on my TODO list that has been a work in procrastination. Sorry to those who joined the channel a few months ago to help with some documentation and didn’t get much out of us, that was my fault and I really do apologize. Hopefully this time around I will have some work ready. I plan on getting a nice list together and separating it according to skill level, before I ask for help from the world again. If you want a head start and want to meet or greet some of us on IRC, stop by #kde-docs on Freenode’s IRC servers.

Thanks everyone!

This entry was posted in Linux and tagged , . Bookmark the permalink. Post a comment or leave a trackback: Trackback URL.
  • Dany

    Thks. great info.. Ijust to wait a little more for that cd

  • Jonas

    Hm, there’s something I’ve been wondering about…not exclusively Kubuntu but rather Debian specific. I’m currently running Hardy Alpha 4 with KDE4 on a test machine, and it works fine (mostly at least…there are a few issues but I’m not sure if they are hardware related, kernel related, KDE4 related, or Hardy related…makes that combo of Hardy/KDE somewhat awkward to use for bug triaging when you are as inexperienced in that field as me). Still, that wasn’t my main point…

    The point I was wondering about is whether there are KDE4 programs in the pipeline for package management? In other words, the adept management suite? If they’re available already, I for one cannot find them.

    That being said…adept_notifer and adept_updater are great but IMO adept_manager need a serious overhaul in UI design. For installing programs, I usually use the shell instead…or Synaptic despite the fact that I prefer to have as few gtk and/or gnome-centered programs as possible installed.

  • hias

    How about one of these for the wallpaper

    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Attic/Animals

  • Cant you just use one of the wonderful KDE4 wallpapers?

  • nosrednaekim

    @Jonas

    Yes, a kde4 version of Adept are in the works, and I think there is even a PPA with some early alphas.

  • ethana2

    I love the useragent switcher. I think I’ll try googlebot and see what happens after this post:

    Keep up the great work! I see some intense DE competition that should rocket us all into the future approaching rapidly, and you fine folks are making it all possible.

  • Pablo

    Concerning the question “Hey, I am not a huge fan of the new default wallpaper for KDE 3 in Hardy, is that going to stay?” I think that the
    wallpaper in Feisty was much nicer than the ones in Gutsy and the one in Hardy-Alpha 4 so… what is the need for changing the wallpaper in every release?

    In any case, why don’t you include a collection of wallpapers and let the user choose the one he prefers…

  • ethana2

    Testing with Googlebot/2.1 useragent…

    Error 403
    We’re sorry, but we could not fulfill your request for /wp-comments-post.php on this server.
    An invalid request was received. You claimed to be a major search engine, but you do not appear to actually be a major search engine.

    Yeah, that usually doesn’t work..

  • Thanks nosrednaekim for answering the Adept question, I tend to forget about Adept since I don’t work on it, nor use it much. Hope that answered your question Jonas.

    @hias: Ya, thanks for linking to the animal skins, I was looking for them earlier and couldn’t find them off hand. I will see what everyone else says about it. I myself use the blue elephant skin, I think it is sweet.

    @Milian Wolf: I don’t know if we want to use the KDE 4 wallpapers by default, however including them so KDE 3 users can choose, just as Pablo suggested.

    @ethana2: quit trying to hax0r my useragent :p Actually, it is a fairly generic script that just checks the user agent and spits out the necessary stuff. As for Googlebot, I don’t think that is in the script anyways, just some of the other blog managers for link backs and what not.

  • I am confused? When Kubuntu 8.04 releases, will KDE 4.02 be included? I guess I am not understanding if Kubuntu will include the latest build of KDE 4.0X, or will it just include KDE 4.0 and we will need to build the latest version of KDE 4.0X ourselves?

    Thanks,
    BrokenCrystal

  • Sokraates

    Regarding the question on resizing the plasma panel: If you mean the separation of resize and rotate buttons, then it’s included in 4.0.1.

    Quoted from http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/www/announcements/changelogs/changelog_branch_4_0.xml?view=markup:

    Separate resize and rotate buttons on widgets, and allow breaking aspect ratio when resizing.

    The Gutsy 4.0.1 packages have this feature (installed them yesterday night) included, so it should be there for Hardy, too.

  • hias

    I use the blue elephant too. It shows the spirit of kubuntu/ubuntu kde edition ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • Pingback: Daniele’s blog » Blog Archive » Kubuntu 8.04 FAQ()

  • I hope the 8.04 release doesn’t wreck the beauty of KDE4 with more off-putting ‘blue’ and purple colour schemes for Kubuntu…

  • 4.0.2 will be included and I am sure there will be a backport of 4.0.3, 4.0.4, 4.0.5, 4.0.6, and then 4.1 fairly quickly as well.

    What I meant by resizing was the actual panel itself. That is not included in 4.0.1 as it was uploaded to trunk after the 4.0.1 tagging was completed, so that means it will be included in 4.0.2.

    I don’t think you will see Kubuntu messing with any of the theming stuff in KDE 4 for a while if it ever happens. HEHE, and no more funky blues and purples ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Jonas

    @nosrednaekim,

    Thanks for that! Right now I am trying out Suse (which is not a bad distro at all, but it does remind me of why I prefer something Debian-based…yast is only TOO eager to get on my nerves), but nice to know adept will be available eventually when the time has come to replace KDE 3.x with 4.x on my main machine – and I’m getting more and more eager to do just that but not quite yet. I don’t have the time for the potential downtime…

  • sboden

    For the default wallpaper, why not hold a poll on what people would like … democracy doesn’t always work but for a wall-paper maybe it does :D. The wall-paper is not that important, but it is a first impression for new people using the live cd e.g.

    I would suggest at least something blue… but less busy than the current hardy default. Some examples I more or less like better:
    http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Clean?content=74405
    http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Crystal+Blue+KBFX+bartheme?content=31392

  • Subscribe to nixternal.com

     Subscribe in a reader

    Or, subscribe via email:
    Enter your email address:

  • Archives


semidetached
semidetached
semidetached
semidetached
%d bloggers like this: