Linux and Gmail II – Zimbra Desktop

Just the other day I posted about Linux and Gmail in reference to clients other than a web browser. I had noted trying out Evolution, KMail, Thunderbird, and of course Mutt which I use daily already. Well, one of the comments, by David Fraser, was about the Zimbra Desktop. I don’t think I have ever used a Zimbra client but I am fairly certain I have used their backend products in the past. Anyways, I went ahead and downloaded Zimbra Desktop, and after a fairly simple installation, have it up and running.

The installation was fairly simple. You extract the tarball, then sudo ./, answer the questions, and boom it is installed. Fairly quick, less than a minute I would say. After it finished installing I went ahead and run it. I was presented a dialog asking me to create an account, in which I did. I selected GMail, entered a name for that account, my username and password, and my name. I clicked save, said OK, and it was up and running and synchronizing my folders faster than any client out there. Sparrow and Mailplane, which I like for GMail clients, can’t even compare in speed. Thunderbird? Evolution? Not even close. KMail? Don’t even ask! OfflineIMAP can’t even compare to the speed in which I was up and running with all email downloaded.

Zimbra Desktop

Usability? I would say it is pretty much the same as every other GUI client in terms of usability. It may seem a little snappier to me compared to the other GUI clients, but time will only tell. The first thing I did was click on a message, I thought, “OK, lets reply.” I am used to the Reply button being over the message I am reading, however Zimbra has it to the left of the message in the top toolbar. I had to actually search for a second to find it. Before I found it, I decided to just do the tried-and-true pressing of the r key, and wouldn’t you know, my reply was ready to be created.

So I haven’t really dug into it deep yet, but first thoughts are not bad, but not great. So, I know my stuff is synchronizing because I can see the little spinner that is up by my account name. What it is synchronizing though I have no clue. Would be nice if it told me. Also, if you look at the image I have included, you will notice a Social tab. This does not belong in an Email client at all. I don’t need Twitter, Facebook, or Digg in my email client. Also, one of the columns that were displayed to me under the Social tab was a Twitter trending topic, #verysexy. Nice, just what I need in my email client, sex. Nothing like reading about a nipple in this shape or size, or a girl or guys ass, in your email client. Classy! As of right now Zimbra folks, get rid of that shit, otherwise I will end up chalking your entire client up as nothing more than a joke.

Oh, and one more thing, it is actually a web client, and uses Prism, which Mozilla is discontinuing and rolling the good stuff into Chromeless. So, keep an eye out, and if I think it is worthy of more discussion, I will add more to the comments, update this post, or create a new post in the future.

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Linux and GMail

I have spent a bit of today playing with the various email clients on Linux today. I use GMail with IMAP for all of my email. Why you ask, especially when there are so many other options? Easy, convenience. I don’t have to set anything up, works with my phone, computers, TV, and then some. I also like how my calendar, contacts, and email are all in one place, and can be viewed, edited, or used from all of the devices I just listed above without having to install a single application. Convenience. I wanted to see how the desktop clients were going these days in regards to email so I played with Evolution, Kontact/KMail, and Thunderbird.

All 3 left a bad taste in my mouth. They all connected with GMail just fine, without having to do more than giving it my GMail address and password. Evolution was probably the fastest on the initial import of email out of the 3. KMail was by far the slowest. Evolution took about an hour, Thunderbird was about the same, and then there was KMail. It is now 19:00 and I started the KMail one at about 16:00, so almost 3 hours. Once KMail got up and running, you would hover over a message and a popup would display with information pertaining to the email. Everything was correct except for the body. The body was for an email in some other folder who knows where. Other than that, they all did what they are supposed to do with GMail.

Well how about with Google Calendar or GMail Contacts? Yeah, not so great. One would work great with contacts, but suck with the calendar, or one would work great with calendar or suck with the contacts, or one wouldn’t work with either. So, I have concluded thus far for me, that Mutt combined with a script or terminal command worked better than the GUI solutions. So I guess the Mutt slogan is 100% true then:

All mail clients suck. This one just sucks less

I just went in and did an apt-cache search gmail and this is what it told me:

Each red dot in that image signifies a GMail notification application. Well, it seems the Linux world has plenty of GMail notification applications and no GMail application. I think it is maybe time you stop being opportunistic with the notifiers. I wish I had some more time, as I would love for something like sparrow or Mailplane for Linux. If you want to be opportunistic, there you go. I think an application like either of those 2 would be great.

That’s all, just wanted to have a little fun today and it has been a while since I blogged, so I figured I would bother you all really quickly ๐Ÿ™‚

EDIT: I Google’d mac gmail and realized they are as bad as Linux when it comes to the notifiers too. I didn’t Google windows gmail because they don’t matter anyways ๐Ÿ™‚

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Blizzard of 2011

As I sit here writing this right now, we here in Chicago are hunkered down with the expectation of receiving more than 24 inches (60cm), of snow. Hoping I can get this posted before the power totally goes out here due to the wind. The wind is making it even worse. We have sustained winds in the 25 to 35 miles per hour (40 to 56 kph), with gusts around 50mph (80kph). It is nuts, but it is fun at the same time. Luckily for us, we don’t close down like other major cities in the US, well except for schools.

EDIT: Forgot to add a link to pics I will be updating of our storm just in case you were interested. Head over to my Picasa Pictures and enjoy. Getting ready to head out and try to stream via U-Stream, because it is nuts right now.

Well, I was looking at the state of documentation in both KDE and Kubuntu and realized it really needs a lot of help. Now that I am starting to have a bit more time available, I am looking at making my way back into contributing to both projects again. I have missed doing the work and hanging out with everyone online.

I plan on making changes to my blog as well in the coming months. I want to get back to not only giving updates about my personal life and my contributions, but I also want to start documenting work I have been doing in the cycling world, and some development work I have been doing there as well that I think other cycling groups around the world could use. With that, it is high time to once again pay that dreadful hosting bill, and right now I am very limited on the funds I have available to go out on things like this. I hate doing this and thought it wasn’t fare to do things like this, but I would appreciate any donation possible. Whether it is $0.15 or $1, any little bit helps me keep this site alive so I can bring news to everyone who reads it. Over to the right of my page is a donate button that goes to PayPal, and if you could click it and spare some change, I would greatly appreciate it.

So with that said, you peeps in the KDE and Kubuntu worlds, get ready, because I want to come back! I have missed you all and I have so much love for each and everyone of you. You all have held the fort down perfectly and have kept progressing in creating the greatest operating system and workspace I have used to date. Thanks for that!

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